Here’s the thing with Jerry Seinfeld: you know he’s joking. He turns on that higher-pitched thing and you know he’s joking. But you can’t convey that in print.

Recently Seinfeld said, in all seriousness, that he felt he was on the autism spectrum. Some people did not respond well to that, saying that he was not making things easier for those who have serious issues with autism. They did not feel that Seinfeld should talk about the condition as lightly as he did.

But now that Jerry Seinfeld has had a funny sit-down with rapper Wale and talked about how he sometimes contemplates suicide, get ready for the firestorm.

Here’s what Seinfeld said. The video is below. You heard it here.

“Yeah, well I have a terrace at my apartment and it’s fantastic. You have to come see it sometime. Every time I go out on that terrace I think, Maybe I’ll jump. Because if I jump, the list of things I don’t have to do is so long, the issues I don’t have to deal with. All I have to do is jump and everything is taken care of. Now, I don’t jump. But I don’t care to know why I want to jump. The mind is not that great.”

“I am being serious… Every time… I look over it and I think, I could do it. I could do it. I’m on the 19th floor. [Laughs.] All I got to do is jump…. But there’s nothing there. There’s nothing there to explore, is my point. I’m not going to a shrink to find out why I want to jump off the terrace. That’s a waste of another hour!”

Wale protested that Jerry was not serious. Jerry insisted that he was. Wale said that even he thinks about it from time to time.

“They say life is too short. It’s way too long! And we’re filling it in with a lot of fake stuff…. There’s a lot of stuff. Maybe I’ll jump, maybe I won’t. We have to come up with things to fill in the time. There are old people sitting on cruise ships, doing crossword puzzles, just trying to finish it up. They didn’t want all that time! But it’s there. That’s why there are a lot of no-talent celebrities, just to fill in the air. We’ve got too much time, too much space. Too many gigabytes.”